I recollect an online discussion several years prior where the topic eventually evolved to misogyny. I get a lot of hate mail, much of it from women who say I hate women and assert I have a problem with women. It’s not true, of course. I don’t have a problem with women per se. I have a problem with people — some of whom happen to be “women.” I put “women” in quotes because that term means different things to different people and this post is an attempt to provoke thought about what women were historically, what they are now and what they could be in a new & different world. But before we proceed, let’s document the official definition of misogyny in case there’s any confusion.
Per that definition, I do hold contempt and dislike for various roles women have been indoctrinated to perform and zealously defend even though those roles are their shackles that prevent True Freedom, if there is such a thing. But aside from the roles women perform, no, I don’t dislike women or have contempt for them. I love women and what they could be — if only. I’ll let the following story explain. It was a response to an individual who asserted the following per the aforementioned online discussion.
Yes, there will be misogyny, however, I wonder how much of that is women’s fault?
I understand the commentator’s sentiment. An excellent Lars von Trier film, Antichrist, dives deep into this thought thread. Lars has been labeled a misogynist as a reward for his efforts. Watch the clip below. Watch the movie — not once, but instead many times until it sinks in. I want you to melt into the green — with me. We need to get back to nature.
Below is my response to the commentator per the aforementioned conversation/discussion about women, women’s rights & roles and misogyny. I wonder what THE MMM MEN think and feel about the topic, or if they have any thoughts & feelings about it at all? Actually, no I don’t. I think it’s obvious if you look at the faces, especially the eyes, what they think and feel, which ranges from close to nothing on one end of the spectrum to nightmarish on the other end if you’re a woman who digs the point of this blog post.
That’s an excellent point. It takes two to tango, so to speak. Lars von Trier tackles this in his movie Antichrist, by the way. Well, Lars grapples with many things in that movie, but this is certainly one of them. An excellent movie, but one you may have to watch several times to get all of it. Rich and dense like a decadent layer cake is an understatement. It helps to see it in Natural High Definition, as well, or at least it helped for me. I couldn’t get it out of my head for days….or maybe even weeks. There are so many thought threads, as soon as you’ve exhausted one, another is there to take its place.
I understand your point, but not everyone needs to be Stieg Larsson. I loved his trilogy, and I love the character Lisbeth Salander. Women need more of this. They need more stories of women who forge their own paths, and not the paths laid out for them by men or the paths of men; the former path being traditional homemakers and the latter being feminist corporatism.
At a family reunion last year, my sister-in-law (S-I-L) spoke about her hero, Billy Jean King. This S-I-L had been ruled over by a tyrant, her husand and my brother, for quite some time before she basically said “fuck-off” and pursued her own interests. She attended college and received a degree in education and is now a teacher. She and my brother have three grown children.
The conversation continued along the lines of women and their current and historical roles in society and women’s rights in general. My brother did not care to discuss any of this so he remained in the other room and scowled. My S-I-L, obviously, supports equal rights but only in the sense that females get to do everything males do, hence her worship of Billy Jean King. I told her that this outcome was disappointing for me. She became immediately defensive because she assumed my statement was motivated by conservatism. I clarified that my wish was that women could chart their own course and create their world, or a New World in collaboration and cooperation with men, not assume predefined roles in the current world crafted and ruled by men.
She’s not the brightest bulb, so she lashed out at me and said “what other world are you talking about? We’re on planet Earth. It’s not like we can go to Mars.” Her response made me realize just how seemingly impossible a truly New World is. Look how far you’d have to go. You’d have to wipe the slate clean and start fresh with a new generation for there to be any chance. A global societal collapse could do that, but the collateral damage will be immense with no guarantee of the ultimate outcome for women, let alone men.
So, what do you think? Is this New World possible? Or do you prefer things as they are and how they’ve been? Or, do you not care either way and don ‘t give such trivial matters much thought and instead prefer to obsess over and exploit the murders and disappearances of young female coeds?