Before I get to the topic of this post, I want to send a special thanks to those of you who have donated to this site over the last several months. Because of your generous donations, my wife Nina and I were able to enjoy a fabulous 40th wedding anniversary celebration yesterday evening. It wouldn’t have been possible if not for your thoughtful and generous gratuity. Your donations reveal your appreciation for all I do at this blog, and I want you to know my wife and I graciously appreciate your appreciation.
Where did we go and what did we do? Well, I’m glad you asked. It wasn’t anything too fancy or daring. No, instead we went for understated simplicity and elegance. First thing on the evening’s agenda, we settled in for a romantic dinner at our favorite restaurant, Burger King. For you non-Americans who aren’t familiar with this famous dining establishment, you really must make sure to visit one when and if you ever make it to the states. It’s the bomb! It’s got something for everyone. My favorite entree is the Whopper w/cheese. Deeeelicious! See, the secret with Burger King is they flame broil their meat. Don’t ask me what that means, because I couldn’t tell you, but man, let me tell you, it makes all the difference in the world. McDonald’s can’t compare. And the fries are to die for. Plaque schmack — bring it on, I say; you only have one life to live so you might as well live it while you’ve got it.
Needless to say, my wife and I thoroughly enjoyed our romantic dinner together at Burger King. If you’re looking for a cozy, intimate setting with relatively light gastric fare, this is the place to go. I highly recommend it. You won’t be disappointed.
After dinner we made our way to the nearest local biker bar. Most people think dives like this are rough and dangerous, but I’m here to tell you, they’re not. These roughneck biker types get a bad rap — they’re really just a bunch of big, over-stuffed teddy bears who like to whoop it up and have a good time. And we did have a good time — no, strike that, we had a great time! I had so many Coronas and Jägermeister shots I couldn’t tell the bikers from my wife. I’m not responsible for anything that might have occurred during the festivities at this dive because at various points throughout the eveing I was hallucinating and some of the visions are too terrible to recount. But aside from that, it was great, so don’t get the wrong impression.
Around 2am we decided to head on out, but not before snorting a little meth. The bikers convinced us it would sober us up enough to make it to the motel safely — and guess what? They were right — we made it to the motel safely and it only took us three hours when the hotel was right next door to the biker bar. Weird. We have no idea what happened in those three hours. We’re not sure we want to know, but whatever it was, it was a workout because I’m experiencing pain today in places I’ve never experienced pain before — and that’s all I’m going to say about it.
The motel was the perfect icing on the perfect evening cake. We ordered the room with the heart-shaped water bed — our favorite. It has silk sheets and every square inch of the room is covered in mirrors. Talk about erotic. And, to top it all off with a cherry, my wife put on the little get-up I bought for her as an anniversary present at Frederick’s of Hollywood. I’m going to be discreet and not give you the particulars about the thereafter except to say kinky would be an understatement.
Despite some peculiar aches and pains, I feel like a new man today. It was an evening I’ll never forget because I already can’t remember more than half of it. This is the good life. This is what we were put on this earth to do — to live and enjoy everything life has to offer including each other.
Alright, with that aside, let’s get down to business and the topic of this post. Obviously, once again, it’s a play on words. It’s an update on my previous I Think I’m Going To Buk blog post. Per review of the link to that blog post, if you haven’t already read it, you’ll note that I harbor no preconceived notions of what happened to Malaysian Airlines Flight 17 that crashed over Ukraine several weeks prior. But apparently I’m an exception, because most if not all, regardless of what side of the debate they’re on, have made up their minds without a full professional and thorough investigation by impartial, objective experts.
To be fair, the Western media has pretty much stuck to its original
forgone conclusion hypothesis without wavering an inch. Of course, the Western mainstream media’s assessment is premature and, currently at least, unsupported by evidence — evidence like the concluding opinion of professional, impartial, objective experts who have conducted a thorough, unbiased investigation. In my opinion, it’s irresponsible and misleading to say “it’s more than likely a surface to air missile shot Flight 17 down and that missile came from an anti-aircraft system provided to the pro-Russian separatists in Eastern Ukraine who mistook the Malaysian Airlines passenger jet for a Ukrainian military plane.” What? How do you know — and don’t give us that nonsense that you can tell just from photos? If that were the case, we might as well cut the NTSB’s budget to one quarter its current level.
That being said, because there’s plenty of blame to go around for judging this event too soon, the anti-American, pro-Russian media is so ridiculously over the top with this, words defy the absurdity I’m witnessing. Unlike the Western media, the anti-American pro-Russian media can’t stick to one conspiracy theory — and each one is as equally outlandish as the next. This article by Mike Rothschild at Skeptoid blog does an excellent job of summarizing all the anti-American, pro-Russian conspiracy theories as they relate to the termination of Malaysian Airlines Flight 17. Per the link, here are just a few of the theories being promoted with reckless abandon all across the anti-American pro-Russian media:
1. — Ukraine actually shot down MH17 to start WWIII/embarrass Russia.
2. — Ukraine actually shot down MH17, because they thought Putin was on it.
3. — MH17 wasn’t shot down in the first place, it was blown up by a bomb on board.
4. — MH17 was shot down because it was carrying the cure for AIDS.
5. — Various Illuminati/Numerology stuff.
6. — The Jews did it because, well, because they’re The Jews and they’re always to blame.
7. — MH17 and MH370 are Actually the Same Plane.
8. — The MH17 shootdown and the Gaza offensive happened on the same day on purpose.
9. — It wasn’t a missile but Ukrainian fighter jets that shot down the plane with a jet cannon gun.
10. — There will be more theories, I can promise you that.
See what I mean? Nuts. Grasping at straws. Do these people look in the metaphorical mirror? Maybe they need to spend a night at the motel so they can’t possibly escape their reflection. It’s pathetic really. Serendipitously satirical. Buffoonery. You get the point.
Not surprisingly, The Saker (rhymes with The Faker — not by coincidence), author of The Vineyard of the Saker blog, has been all over this from day one and he’s been out front in labeling it a false flag from the get go — as though he had a script in front of him ready to go when it happened. The nature of the false flag, both how and why it was pulled off and by whom exactly, has changed repeatedly, but the assertion it was a false flag has remained constant from the very beginning. Here’s The Saker’s latest post related to the crash of Flight 17. It’s just one of many at his blog.
Detailed expert analysis of the MH17 downing
It is a huge pleasure for me to submit to you a detailed analysis made by “CDN” of the circumstances of the downing of MH17.
You will notice that CDN’s analysis does not agree with my own hypothesis. The difference being that CDN does have the professional expertise (accident investigation) to write such a report while I do not. Still, CDN has specifically asked me to “please encourage readers to be critical of my analysis” which I indeed encourage you to do: his analysis does not pretend to be The One And Only Truth but instead a basis for discussion.
You can download his full report by clicking on either one of the following links:
I am getting increasingly frustrated and angry at the fact that clearly the Dutch and the British, obviously under the orders of Uncle Sam, are sitting on the data of the flight data recorders and not releasing them. At the very least, the following countries have the recordings of the radio contacts between MH17 and the Kiev ATC:
1) The junta’s SBU
2) The USA
and then two more countries – France and Switzerland – which probably have them too. Even if these recordings are destroyed, there are enough people out there who by now who know what happened. The truth will come out sooner or later. In the meantime, the main task is not to discover The One And Only Truth, but first to disprove the complex of lies of the Empire and, then, to gradually get close and closer to the truth.
We all owe a huge debt of gratitude to CDN who produced a professional-grade report and made it available for us for the sole reward of advancing the cause of truth and justice. I am personally deeply grateful to CDN for choosing this blog to release his report.
I ask you all to share with us your comments, especially your critical ones, to make it possible for CDN to refine his analysis. This would be the best way to thank him for his truly excellent work.
Don’t you just love how he says “Dear friends?” What a disingenuous shithead. Friends, my ass. More like boot-licking troll brigade. Your trolls are not friends, you impostor, they’re strategic conveniences. The few who aren’t, are genuine haters who will look for anyone to join up with in their ax-grinding of America and Americans. Logic need not apply. In fact, leave the logic at the door before entering that realm of perverse and snarling hatred.
What’s incredible, or maybe it’s not all things considered, is the fact various writers and personalities are reading, linking to and endorsing The Saker and those like him. There has been a radicalizing effect on many in the alternative Bloggerverse, and even a radicalizing effect on some in the mainstream. Take Mike Whitney, for example. I’d consider him mainstream, but with this latest Ukraine crisis, he’s stepping out and stepping up to the radical plate. His latest post here makes me wonder — is he yet another victim of The Saker’s spell? Does he read The Saker? Maybe. Maybe not. But the sentiment is very similar. He mentions false flag — something verboten in mainstream news. I know he’s on the periphery of mainstream, but still. And then of course, there’s Paul Craig Roberts. Reagan must be rolling in his grave. Can you believe this fruitcake held public office — high public office at the Federal level? Of course you can, and I can too. I think he’s a prime example of what comprises Inside the Beltway — and considering that, is anyone surprised with the outcome(s)? You shouldn’t be. I’m not. I think the last time I was surprised was when I found out there wasn’t a Santa Claus when I was eight or nine years old. After that, I trusted no one. I realized then, it was all lies. Anyway, here’s a clip from that Whitney link for exhibit and posterity.
Was Malaysia Flight 17 Shot Down?
“From start to finish, the Ukraine crisis has been instigated by US imperialism. Every action Washington has taken has been directed at exacerbating and intensifying this crisis. The longer this crisis goes on, the clearer it becomes that US policy is directed not so much at Ukraine as at Russia itself. Ukraine, it would seem, is meant merely to provide the pretext for a war with Russia.”
— Bill Van Auken, “Does Washington want war with Russia?“, World Socialist Web Site
German pilot and airlines expert, Peter Haisenko, thinks that Malaysia Flight 17 was not blown up by a ground-based antiaircraft missile, but shot down by the type of double-barreled 30-mm guns used on Ukrainian SU-25 fighter planes. Haisenko presented his theory in a widely-circulated and controversial article which appeared on the Global Research website titled “Revelations of German Pilot: Shocking Analysis of the “Shooting Down” of Malaysian MH17. “Aircraft Was Not Hit by a Missile”. Here’s an excerpt from the article:
“The facts speak clear and loud and are beyond the realm of speculation: The cockpit shows traces of shelling! You can see the entry and exit holes. The edge of a portion of the holes is bent inwards. These are the smaller holes, round and clean, showing the entry points most likely that of a 30 millimeter caliber projectile….” (“Revelations of German Pilot: Shocking Analysis of the “Shooting Down” of Malaysian MH17. “Aircraft Was Not Hit by a Missile””, Global Research)
Haisenko notes that the munitions used on Ukrainian fighters–anti-tank incendiary and splinter-explosive shells–are capable of taking down a jetliner and that the dense pattern of metal penetrated by multiple projectiles is consistent with the firing pattern of a 30-mm gun.
The fact that Russian radar spotted a SU 25 in the area where MH17 was attacked, has persuaded many that Haisenko’s analysis is credible. Adding to the controversy, international monitor Michael Bociurkiw, who was one of the first inspectors from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) to reach the crash site and who spent more than a week examining the ruins–also appears to be convinced that the ill-fated jetliner was not hit by a missile but downed by machinegun fire consistent with the myriad bullet-holes visible on the fuselage. Here’s what he told on CBC World News:
“There have been two or three pieces of fuselage that have been really pock-marked. It almost looks like machine gun fire; very, very strong machine gun fire that has left these unique marks that we haven’t seen anywhere else.
We’ve also been asked if we’ve seen any signs of a missile?
Well, no we haven’t. That’s the answer.” (“Malaysia Airlines MH17: Michael Bociurkiw talks about being first at the crash site“, CBC News. Note: The above quote is from the video)
The idea that MH17 was downed by a surface-to-air missile (from a BUK system) is a theory that originated with the US government and spread by the western media. The theory has been repeated thousands of times in thousands of newspapers and TV programs without a shred of corroborating evidence. Needless to say, the repetition of a fable, does not make it true. The public needs more facts to determine what really happened. Unfortunately, the Obama administration has been stonewalling the investigation, preferring instead to use the tragedy to advance their own narrow political agenda by attacking Putin and smearing Russia. This strategy has clearly backfired as we can see by the fact that Haisenko’s analysis has caught on like wildfire convincing many that the missile theory is a fake.
I agree Mikey, there needs to be a thorough, professional investigation conducted by impartial, objective experts. There are some who are trying to do that. Your charge to Obama is worthy, but what’s curiously missing is your charge to Putin. You pretend he’s an innocent party to this and isn’t manipulating the Eastern media, both mainstream and alternative — and the alternative Western media. Your worthy chastisement is impartial, lopsided and incomplete. You’re giving Putin the benefit of the doubt. Why? Also, you claim the Western media that parrots the Obama admin’s
foregone conclusion hypothesis is jumping the gun without evidence. Well, I agree, but then you theorize via proxy by giving truck to Peter Haisenko’s and The World Socialist Web Site’s foregone conclusion hypothesis. Come on. You couldn’t be more biased and hypocritical. Look in the mirror before you publish unbalanced crap like this.
As I mentioned above, the latest, but always subject to major revision at a moment’s notice so long as said change blames the alleged Ukraine/America nexus,
foregone conclusion hypothesis trotted out by the anti-American pro-Russian propaganda brigade is that Malaysian Airlines Flight 17 was shot down by the cannon gun of a Ukraine fighter jet evidenced by the shrapnel pattern seen in photos of plane pieces, specifically the cockpit. Keep in mind, this latest contention these deceptive bastards make is devoid of expert analysis and investigation. It’s just hacks looking at internet photos and opining about something they have no business opining about. Here’s the latest theory from a blog listed on Lisa Simeone’s blogroll. She also lists The Welch Committee‘s blog on her blogroll, so it’s All In The Family so to speak. Per the link:
Evidence Is Now Conclusive: 2 Ukrainian Government Fighter-Jets Did Shoot Down that Malaysian Airliner. No ‘Buk’ Missile Ground-Shot.
So: one of the two first international monitors on-site saw conclusive evidence that the Malaysian plane had been hit by “very very strong machine-gun fire,” not by ground-based missile-fire. Peter Haisenko’s reconstruction of the downing of that airliner, was here being essentially confirmed on-site by one of the two first OSCE international monitors to arrive on-site, while the wreckage was still smoldering. That’s as close to virgin, untouched evidence and testimony as we’ll ever get. Unlike a black-box interpretation-analysis long afterward by the Russian Government, or by the British Government, or by the Ukrainian Government, each of which governments has a horse in this race, this testimony from Bociurkiw is raw, independent, and comes from one of the two earliest witnesses to the physical evidence. That’s powerfully authoritative testimony, and it happens to confirm pilot Peter Haisenko’s theory of what happened. Bociurkiw arrived there fast because he negotiated with the locals for the rest of the OSCE team, who were organizing to come later: Bociurkiw speaks the local languages there — Ukrainian and Russian.
These guys are scrapping this propaganda scarecrow together with a passion, I’ll give them that, and when that scarecrow loses its stuffing, they replace it immediately with some new stuffing on their way to see The Wiz. Thankfully, there was a sane voice in the comments to that Washington’s Blog article. Also, if anyone has any deeper information on who and/or what operates Washington’s Blog, I’d appreciate it — because the place stinks to high heaven and the web site is wonky when you stay on it for any length of time. If there’s a nexus with that site and The Saker, let’s expose it. Traitors will be consumed, remember? Here’s the sane voice comment — someone with some common sense who can think for themselves and is not easily manipulated.
Steve Rendall • 13 hours ago
This is nonsense. The OSCE official did not say he saw “conclusive evidence.” He said he saw “what almost looked like” machine gun fire, and he said that he saw no evidence of missiles damage, THEN quickly added that he was not a expert on the subject. He is not a forensic plane crash expert! There is also no evidence offered that the the pilot has any expertise in plane crash forensics, and he hasn’t even been to the site! I drive a car, that does NOT make me an expert on car crashes. The “analysis” here doesn’t even reach level of Amateur Hour.
Thanks Steve for renewing my faith that there are still a few who haven’t been converted yet by the Body Snatchers. I’m not going to dive deep into the forensics of this because it’s a rabbit hole from whence there is no return. If you’re objective and impartial, this latest conspiracy theory bandied about by the anti-American pro-Russian propagandists is easily refuted just on the face of it. And that’s not surprising. This article from The New York Times explains the shrapnel pattern yet nowhere will you find this as a potential explanation in the anti-American pro-Russian analysis — because it’s not analysis, it’s propaganda. Per the link:
Wreckage Offers Clues on Why Flight 17 Went Down
Photographs of a piece of wreckage found by two reporters for The New York Times and analyzed by Reed Foster, a defense analyst with IHS Jane’s, offer some clues about what could have caused Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 to crash. While it is impossible from the photographs to determine that a specific missile was used, Mr. Foster said, the damage is consistent with the effects of a fragmentary warhead carried by an SA-11, the type of missile that American officials have said was most likely behind the attack.
Analysis: The shrapnel came from outside the plane.
Mr. Foster said the contour of the aluminum and the blistering of the paint around many of the holes indicate that small pieces of high-velocity shrapnel entered the aircraft externally. Mr. Foster said the two most likely causes were an engine explosion or an exploding missile.
Many of the holes are relatively small …
Mr. Foster said “most of the smaller holes appear to have been caused by a high-velocity projectile, as opposed to shearing or tearing caused by the forceful separation of the panel from the airframe.” He said the SA-11 family of missiles was designed to destroy fast-moving military aircraft at high elevations. Rather than striking an aircraft directly, the missiles intercept the targeted aircraft and then explode near it, creating a cloud of shrapnel.
… and uniform in size.
Most of the perforations are about the same size, and the fragments seemed to have entered from a front angle, Mr. Foster said. He said that fragmentary-warhead missiles try to “put as many consistently sized, low-drag fragments into the airframe as possible.” The shrapnel damage is different from what would be expected after an aircraft-engine explosion, Mr. Foster said, which would have caused “longer, thinner, oblique tears across the aircraft skin, with a slight hump toward the point where the fragment entered the skin, rather than the majority of punctures present.”
I’m not saying this is conclusive proof, but rather it is a plausible explanation for the seeming shrapnel pattern and this analyst has the decency to caveat his explanation by saying “it is impossible from the photographs to determine that a specific missile was used.” With the anti-American pro-Russian propagandists you will never get any such caveats because those freaks are not interested in approaching truth — they’re the worse of liars for all the wrong reasons.
Finally, to wrap this lengthy post up, I’m not confident we’ll ever know for certain or with any degree of certainty what exactly happened to Malaysian Airlines Flight 17. Here’s what I stated in my original I Think I’m Going To Buk blog post dated July 21, 2014 and I’m sticking to this statement:
In conclusion, the jury’s still out for me on what happened to Malaysian Airlines Flight 17, and I suspect I will never definitively know. I’m not going to enter the politicized fray and opine what I think may or may not have happened — there are too many possibilities and not enough information to make an educated guess. It would be irresponsible speculation — something that hasn’t stopped all the other liars in this politicized debate, including CNN.
As for that professional and thorough investigation conducted by objective, impartial experts, well, so much for that per the following article:
Click link behind title to see video
The Australian and Dutch governments have abandoned the search for victims of the Flight MH17 disaster.
In statements overnight, prime ministerial envoy Angus Houston and Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte conceded that the insecurity of an intensifying separatist war in and around the search site made it impossible to continue.
The Houston statement was issued at 9.30pm in Kiev [2.30am Sydney/Melbourne], at the same time as most of the 100-plus forensic and other experts who have dodged bombs to get to the site, were mounting up for a bus ride away from the area of the crash site, to the northeastern city of Kharkiv.
Feeding into the news cycle at the start of a national day of mourning for the 38 Australian citizens and residents who died when the Malaysian Airways Boeing 777 was shot from the sky, Mr Houston’s statement is replete with positives.
“The first phase of the Dutch-led humanitarian mission to the crash site of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 has concluded,” he said, adding: “Our purpose was to recover remains from the site. We did this swiftly and thoroughly, while it was safe to do so.”
Mr Houston also said he is confident most of the remains of MH17 victims have been recovered.
“I’m greatly encouraged by the fact that we searched high priority areas on the last three days of the search and didn’t find any human remains at all,” he said from Kiev.
Mr Houston alluded to a lack of security that has seen the investigators pinned down for hours at a time and actually searching for as little as 30 minutes on Monday, but the Dutch leader opted for more blunt language at a press conference in The Hague.
Promising victim families that the searchers would return to the 50 sq km site, 80km east of the besieged separatist stronghold here in Donetsk, Mr Rutte said it was too dangerous for international specialists to remain in the region where the security situation is deteriorating.
Wednesday was a classic example of the security challenge faced by the experts – a scaled down party of just a few dozen took three hours to get to the site, spent three hours waiting for the villagers of Rassypnoe to hand over just a few small pieces of debris and a single silver necklace, which local Alexei Vladimirovich,27, said he had found in his potato patch; and another hour or so avoiding small arms fire in the village before bolting northwards to their base at Soledar.
“The risks are getting higher and the rewards are getting lower,” a member of the Australian team with access to the leadership’s thinking on strategy told Fairfax Media.
Both Mr Houston and Mr Rutte expressed gratitude to a seemingly indefatigable team of conflict monitors from the Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe, who negotiated endlessly with the rebels and the Ukrainian military to secure peace on the actual site and safe passage to and from the site.
Sadly, the effort was met with mixed results, with deals agreed in the early hours of the morning becoming meaningless as the investigators’ convoy approached the site.
“I would like to express my sincere gratitude to the parties that have enabled access to the area for our international team, Mr Houston said. “I thank the Ukrainian Government for its outstanding support, and I thank the Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe, whose officers safeguarded Australian personnel – without them, we could not have conducted our mission.”
Mr Rutte promised victims’ families the search would resume at some time in the future.
Flight 17 was shot down in Eastern Ukraine on July 17, killing all 298 on board and since then an estimated 228 coffins have been airlifted to the Netherlands.
Without addressing the oft-quoted figure of 80 bodies still unaccounted for, Mr Rutte also intimated that recently received information from a Ukrainian military doctor who had supervised the recovery operation in the days immediately after the crash “has changed the recovery team’s perception of an earlier effort undertaken by local authorities.”
The Dutch led-international recovery team had been observed collecting small quantities of human remains on most days that they have been on the site, but they have withheld any indication of the extent to which their finds might reduce the figure.
But Mr Rutte said it appeared that “fortunately more was done after the disaster than we thought until now.”
On July 31, at a meeting in Minsk, officials from Ukraine, the OSCE and Russia, and representatives of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic agreed to cease fire within the humanitarian corridor used by OSCE monitors to access the crash site.
The ambit of the search effort was heavily qualified on Tuesday, when Australian Federal Police Commander Mark Harrison told Fairfax Media at the crash site that the search was limited to documents and the like that would help in the forensic identification of the victims.
That jarred with comments by Mr Houston on the day the first bodies were airlifted from Kharkiv, when he told reporters that ‘all the bodies, all the possessions and all the wreckage’ were to be recovered. There was no mention at that stage of this being a first phase of the search.
Australian flags are to fly at half mast on Thursday and the nation is to pause to remember the victims and Mr Abbott is to attend a memorial service at St Patrick’s Cathedral in Melbourne, at which he is to be joined by Governor-General Sir Peter Cosgrove and Opposition Leader Bill Shorten. Mr Houston is to attend a similar ceremony in Kiev.
“We will give thanks for their lives and we will pray for their loved ones,” Mr Abbott said. “We will pause.”
That’s it for now, my friends — if I have any and I don’t believe I do. Unlike the anti-American pro-Russian propagandists, lie well and for all the right reasons because, as we know, it’s all lies.