No, once again I’m not talking about the not-so-fresh-feeling although this is very similar in many respects. I know, I know, I keep deferring that talk — but can you blame me? It’s not an easy topic to broach. I’ll get to it — I promise — you know I’d never lie to you. So be patient.
No, this talk is about some hard-core lying and our friend Kate Pomeroy has some coming clean and fessing up to do. I happened upon an interesting website yesterday while researching Ukraine, Russia and Crimea. Regardless of who runs this website, you can’t argue with great evidence proving lies. I’ve suspected all along that many of these anti-American, pro-Russian websites in the alternative media are spreading blatant lying propaganda but I wasn’t aware of the blatant transparent extent of it. Here’s an example article from the website StopFake.org.
Fake with the help of video-editing: Ukrainian journalist said that 1.5 million residents of Donbas should be killed
July 31 Russian TV channel LifeNews showed a video fragment from the program of Ukrainian channel hromadske.tv. In this fragment Ukrainian journalist Bohdan Butkevych allegedly said the following: “Donbas is not just a depressed region. There we have a large complex of problems. And the main thing is that there are an incredible number of useless people there. I am aware of what I am talking. Speaking only about the Donetsk Region, there are approximately 4 million people there and at least 1.5 million of useless people. I want to say that we do not have to understand Donbas. We have to understand the Ukrainian national interest. It seems to me that Donbas should be used as a resource. I have no full-fledged formula what we have to do quickly, but the main thing that we have to do now, no matter how cruel it would sound, in Donbass there is a certain category of people that should be just killed”.
Then the LifeNews TV anchorman says that the journalist of Hromadske was not embarrassed at all with Butkevych’s statements and that she was listening very attentively. The news item was captioned: “Double-dyed fascism. A Ukrainian journalist said that 1.5 million residents of Donbas should be killed”.
The same day TV channel Russia 24 issued the similar news item.
Journalists of Russian Channel One also mentioned Butkevych in their evening news. Unlike their colleagues they did not give Butkevych’s “direct speech”, but mentioned him in the news item about the session of Verkhovna Rada. After the member of the parliament Liashko refused to comment on the session saying: “I express my opinion to journalists, not to goebbelses”, voiceover of the Kyiv correspondent of Channel One says: “Kyiv Nazi and journalist Bohdan Butkevych expressed his opinion to one of the liberal channels. He said – I am quoting – “about useless people in Donbas and that such people should be killed”. The reaction of an anchorwoman is astonishing, she does not even interrupt undisguised fascist speech”.
This news about a journalist allegedly proposing to kill more than a million people spread around Internet as well.
We decided to examine what was that the Ukrainian journalist said to hromadske.tv and why anchorwoman Nastia Stanko was not embarrassed with his words.
The source of the Russian channels news is a video which is entitled “Bohdan Butkevych. Everything is simple. We just need to kill 1.5 million of Donbas residents” and is lasting 49 seconds.
Firstly, after watching the video you can notice with an unaided eye three edit transitions. It means that this is not the whole monolog, but four different fragments of it. Something like that: fragment 1 – transition 1 – fragment 2 – transition 2 – fragment 3 – transition 3 – fragment 4.
Secondly, there exists an original video lasting 31 minutes and 52 seconds. Even if you exclude from it 7-minute Skype-conversation with another journalist (from 1:40 to 8:40), you can see that, comparing to edited 49-second video, the interview with Butkevych is 20 times longer.
Special attention should be paid to the video starting from 19 minute. “Donbas is not just a depressed region. There we have a large complex of problems. And the main thing is that THERE ARE AN INCREDIBLE NUMBER OF USELESS PEOPLE THERE, first of all IN ECONOMY. THEY CANNOT BE PROVIDED WITH A JOB. That is because the economy structure, constructed there, is so inefficient. When you communicate with Metinvest officials off the record, they will tell you a lot of interesting. I AM AWARE OF WHAT I AM TALKING. SPEAKING ONLY ABOUT THE DONETSK REGION, THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 4 MILLION PEOPLE THERE AND AT LEAST 1.5 MILLION OF THEM ARE USELESS PEOPLE. THEY WILL NEVER HAVE A JOB THERE”(…) “DONBAS IS OUR RESOURCE. AND IT IS OUR PROBLEM THAT WE CANNOT USE IT. WE GIVE THIS RESOURCE TO THE BUNCH OF WELL-TO-DO MONSTERS FROM PARTY TOP BUREAUCRACY, which joined the local criminal clans” (…). THERE IS A CERTAIN CATEGORY OF PEOPLE THAT JUST SHOULD BE KILLED. UNFORTUNATELY WE CANNOT MAKE AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM. I WAS IN SLOVIANSK AND I WAS TRYING TO TALK TO THEM. THE MAJORITY OF REBELS NEED ECONOMIC ALTERNATIVE. Donbas always went on a strike for “food”. If you give them “food”, they will stop protests”. In the context of the abovementioned we can understand that Butkevych proposed to “kill” terrorists.
The journalist reacted to the publication of the edited video and wrote on his Facebook page: “As for killing. I said that terrorists, who took guns and with whom we cannot make an agreement, should be killed”. As Nastia Stanko was listening to Bohdan Butkevych not for 49 seconds, but for more than 20 minutes, she understood that he was talking about terrorists that should be killed and – apart – about 1.5 million useless people that have no job. That is why she is so calm.
Thirdly, this interview was recorded on April 29, 2014 and the edited video was uploaded to Internet on July 31, that is after 3 month. And 3-month old video occupied some of the most popular Russian TV channels. Not going into details of news standards, we will just say that news journalists call yesterday news “antiquity”. Why Russian main channels suddenly showed in their news the fragment of 3-month old video – this is a question rather of editorial policy than news standards.
I don’t know about you, but that’s pretty god-damned, over-the-top, beyond-the-pale treachery and deceit. But what’s even worse are the cretins who amplify such obvious lying propaganda in Western spaces by championing blogs that carry and endorse such deceit. I say cretins because all of this has been brought to their attention on numerous occasions and they still continue to endorse those blogs. In otherwords, they are complicit and, imo, therefore traitorous. They should be held to account, imo. Not that they will be. The alphabet agencies are too busy doing everything but their jobs, so they obviously can’t be bothered.
For those who need clarification concerning that last paragraph because you’re either new to this blog or you’ve been reading all along but still don’t get it, many Western ( allegedly) anti-American, pro-Russian blogs in the alternative media have referenced the blog The Vineyard of the Saker as a competent, objective, professional and authoritative source on many things, but most especially this Ukrainian crisis. The Saker’s blog continuously gets admiring honorable mentions at Moon of Alabama blog, Ian Stirling Ireland Lang Simeone Celsius Welch blog and Pat Lang’s Sic Semper Tyrannis blog. Pat Lang’s referencing and endorsing of The Vineyard of the Saker blog is especially telling and damning considering the Colonel’s resume. Where are the alphabet agencies? Where are you? I know you’re reading me and have read me — so I’m asking you — what the fuck are you doing if you’re not doing your job? Or is your job just to watch and report? If so, I want my money back because I don’t see how that’s constructive in any way. I’m watching and observing and American taxpayers aren’t paying me and I’m reporting to the world and not to secret select groups of people who will never do a thing about it because — because why? Maybe because they’re complicit too. What else could explain it, and don’t hand me the incompetence bullshit. I’m not buying it. Not anymore, if I ever did.
Whew! Now that I have that off my broad chest, let me show you The Vineyard of the Saker blog’s headline story today. I bet you can guess what it is — you’re that intelligent. Here’s the link.
“It’s perfectly simple. You need to kill 1.5 million people in Donbass”
Ukrainian Journalist Openly Calls for Genocide on Hromadske TV, Financed by the US and the Netherlands
Preamble: Hromadske TV is now officially the Ukrainian version of Rwandan RTLM. Just like RTLM called for the extermination of the Tutsi, calling them Inyenzi, or cockroaches, so now Hromadske TV is legitimizing the genocide of the population of Novorossiya. From Inyenzi to Colorados, we have come full circle. Hromadske TV, this mouthpiece of Ukrainian genocide, is financed directly by US and Dutch embassies. The blood of the population of Novorossiya is on all our hands – we have allowed this to happen. Please circulate this as widely as you can and stand witness to this Holocaust.
Transcript: “It’s perfectly simple. You need to kill 1.5 million people in Donbass”
Translated from Ukrainian by Valentina Lisitsa
Bogdan Boutkevitch: Ok, you ask me “How can this be happening?” Well, it happens because Donbass, in general, is not simply a region in a very depressed condition, it has got a whole number of problems, the biggest of which is that it is severely overpopulated with people nobody has any use for. Trust me I know perfectly well what I am saying.
If we take, for example, just the Donetsk oblast, there are approximately 4 million inhabitants, at least 1.5 million of which are superfluous. That’s what I mean: we don’t need to [try to] “understand” Donbass, we need to understand Ukrainian national interests.
Donbass must be exploited as a resource, which it is. I don’t claim to have a quick solution recipe, but the most important thing that must be done – no matter how cruel it may sound – is that there is a certain category of people that must be exterminated.
Hromadske TV is Financed Directly by US and Dutch Embassies
Kate, I’m calling you out for a fess up because you’re obviously sympathetic to proven duplicitous liars. Considering that, I now have to reconsider your peace proposal. I’m not so sure I’m willing to concede any part of Eastern Ukraine or Crimea to these craven, deceptive liars. Yes, of course, I know, it’s all lies — but this is terrible lying for all the wrong reasons so I not only don’t endorse it but I stand firmly in opposition to it.
In the meantime, I need the rest of you to do what you can to uncover what I believe may be a Russian conspiracy afoot. My theory, and it’s still a theory until more convincing evidence is accumulated, is that the litany of blogs I’ve mentioned are purposely spreading Russian propaganda. If so, it would be grounds for treason, imo, considering the entire sentiment of their collective messaging. If they’re on Putin’s payroll they have a duty to report that most important fact. If not, and my theory is wrong, how the hell do you explain such irresponsible behavior? Is their hatred that deep and pervasive they’d carry water for the devil himself without solicitation from the devil for that delusionally gracious service? People never cease to amaze. Hatred combined with ego is the most powerfully intoxicating hallucinogen. These people are a danger to themselves and everyone around them.